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Pod 611: Not Fans First

Section 336

August 13, 2025 · 1 hr 1 min

The Baltimore Orioles are struggling both on the field and in the warehouse. We take a look at the on the field product, Matt has an issue with Mike Elias, and Josh (like most fans) is upset at the business side of…

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three, six, we all need some tuning.

[SPEAKER_04]: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Baltimore Sports fans of all ages.

[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to section three, three, six.

[SPEAKER_04]: Next generation of Baltimore Sports Talk.

[SPEAKER_04]: I am you're in Gilly Stringhouse, Matt's Roca.

[SPEAKER_04]: As always, I'm joined by the button-level Josh Roca.

[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, Matt.

[SPEAKER_06]: How about those birds that we don't know?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's exciting to watch the world because every night you turn the TV and and you don't even know who who who's going to be there.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's so exciting.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think tonight I'm going to head on up to see the jumbo shrimp because they are playing the Norfolk Tides and I'm wondering if at this point if I know the lineup of the tide better than I know the lineup of the Orioles.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's probably actually close.

[SPEAKER_04]: probably actually close.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that leads to something that there is, I found a new thing that annoys me about my allies, annoys me more than anything else.

[SPEAKER_04]: And the other things that annoys me about my allies and has to do with nerf of tides.

[SPEAKER_04]: But that's just a little teaser.

[SPEAKER_04]: We'll talk about that and we'll get to that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we haven't done this in a while, but a quick, um,

[SPEAKER_04]: We talked a little bit last year about little league and travel ball.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you're back in it, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's back full swing with travel ball.

[SPEAKER_04]: It has his first tournament, not this weekend, but next the weekend after.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I got to say Josh, when we first start talking about travel ball.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I know a lot of people think travel ball for, you know, he was seven last year, eight this year as ridiculous.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I went in with the mindset, the only reason we're doing it is not trying to get my kid a college scholarship here, given to the majors.

[SPEAKER_04]: He just loves to play.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so we did travel ball just because playing Rec Ball was just not enough.

[SPEAKER_04]: We want to play more.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And my mindset going in was, can I do this without going all in?

[SPEAKER_04]: Because I'm being a baseball dad.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, the baseball dad.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want this to.

[SPEAKER_04]: There was the money factor.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like at no point that I want like travel ball to become a financial like constraint to our family.

[SPEAKER_04]: We have to make sacrifices just so my seven or eight year old can go play baseball.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're not going there.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then time wise.

[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want this to be something where the whole family is kind of built around status and schedule for travel ball.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're not doing that either.

[SPEAKER_04]: So okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And last year was great.

[SPEAKER_04]: There was four tournaments.

[SPEAKER_04]: The cost was not bad.

[SPEAKER_04]: And this year, and this is partly my problem, Josh.

[SPEAKER_04]: The practices and seas and actually started in July when I was with you in North Carolina.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I wasn't coming home for a few practices, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Because again, that would violate part of doing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we didn't actually even go to try out.

[SPEAKER_04]: They had tryouts.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I called the coach us like we're in North Carolina.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're not

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we're not going to be run for trials.

[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, it's fine.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's on the team.

[SPEAKER_01]: Three, six, we all need some tuning. [SPEAKER_04]: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Baltimore Sports fans of all ages. [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to section three, three, six. [SPEAKER_04]: Next generation of Baltimore Sports Talk. [SPEAKER_04]: I am you're in Gilly Stringhouse, Matt's Roca. [SPEAKER_04]: As always, I'm joined by the button-level Josh Roca. [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, Matt. [SPEAKER_06]: How about those birds that we don't know? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's fun. [SPEAKER_04]: It's exciting to watch the world because every night you turn the TV and and you don't even know who who who's going to be there. [SPEAKER_04]: It's so exciting. [SPEAKER_06]: I think tonight I'm going to head on up to see the jumbo shrimp because they are playing the Norfolk Tides and I'm wondering if at this point if I know the lineup of the tide better than I know the lineup of the Orioles. [SPEAKER_04]: It's probably actually close. [SPEAKER_04]: probably actually close. [SPEAKER_04]: And that leads to something that there is, I found a new thing that annoys me about my allies, annoys me more than anything else. [SPEAKER_04]: And the other things that annoys me about my allies and has to do with nerf of tides. [SPEAKER_04]: But that's just a little teaser. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll talk about that and we'll get to that. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we haven't done this in a while, but a quick, um, [SPEAKER_04]: We talked a little bit last year about little league and travel ball. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And you're back in it, right? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: It's back full swing with travel ball. [SPEAKER_04]: It has his first tournament, not this weekend, but next the weekend after. [SPEAKER_04]: And I got to say Josh, when we first start talking about travel ball. [SPEAKER_04]: And I know a lot of people think travel ball for, you know, he was seven last year, eight this year as ridiculous. [SPEAKER_04]: And I went in with the mindset, the only reason we're doing it is not trying to get my kid a college scholarship here, given to the majors. [SPEAKER_04]: He just loves to play. [SPEAKER_04]: And so we did travel ball just because playing Rec Ball was just not enough. [SPEAKER_04]: We want to play more. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_04]: And my mindset going in was, can I do this without going all in? [SPEAKER_04]: Because I'm being a baseball dad. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, the baseball dad. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want this to. [SPEAKER_04]: There was the money factor. [SPEAKER_04]: Like at no point that I want like travel ball to become a financial like constraint to our family. [SPEAKER_04]: We have to make sacrifices just so my seven or eight year old can go play baseball. [SPEAKER_04]: We're not going there. [SPEAKER_04]: And then time wise. [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want this to be something where the whole family is kind of built around status and schedule for travel ball. [SPEAKER_04]: We're not doing that either. [SPEAKER_04]: So okay. [SPEAKER_04]: And last year was great. [SPEAKER_04]: There was four tournaments. [SPEAKER_04]: The cost was not bad. [SPEAKER_04]: And this year, and this is partly my problem, Josh. [SPEAKER_04]: The practices and seas and actually started in July when I was with you in North Carolina. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I wasn't coming home for a few practices, right? [SPEAKER_04]: Because again, that would violate part of doing. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: And we didn't actually even go to try out. [SPEAKER_04]: They had tryouts. [SPEAKER_04]: And I called the coach us like we're in North Carolina. [SPEAKER_04]: We're not [SPEAKER_04]: You know, we're not going to be run for trials. [SPEAKER_04]: And he said, it's fine. [SPEAKER_04]: He's on the team. [SPEAKER_04]: So don't even worry about trials. [SPEAKER_04]: He's on the team. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: He added about two new players from last year. [SPEAKER_04]: Three new players from last year and got rid of some, you know, weak spots. [SPEAKER_04]: So we were better now, which is cool. [SPEAKER_04]: But so we get back in August. [SPEAKER_04]: He starts going to practice again. [SPEAKER_04]: And then I realized I never really talked to anyone about this year. [SPEAKER_04]: What this year will look like in terms of time, money, all this stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: So now it's August. [SPEAKER_04]: And so last week I called, you know, the guy who runs this whole, it's called the factory. [SPEAKER_04]: His name's Matt. [SPEAKER_04]: I called Matt. [SPEAKER_04]: I think yes. [SPEAKER_04]: So what's the deal with this year? [SPEAKER_04]: And we got the talk in Josh and I realized pretty quick in the conversation. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: But I've made a huge mistake. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, which because of the money or the commitment, what part is a huge mistake at this point to you? [SPEAKER_04]: There's a third factor that has emerged. [SPEAKER_04]: One is the money. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not a big deal, but it is double over what it was last year. [SPEAKER_04]: Double, which is, I was not expecting that, but it's fine. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not a huge burden. [SPEAKER_04]: And there's fundraiser stuff I'm gonna do. [SPEAKER_04]: And the top commitment we're going from four tournaments to nine. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, more tournaments. [SPEAKER_06]: That's, explains the double in price. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but all of them within forty minutes. [SPEAKER_04]: They're all in two locations, one, twenty five minutes, one, forty minutes. [SPEAKER_04]: So as we're not traveling across the state across the country. [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm good with the time commitment. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm okay with that. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm okay with the Saturday or Sunday, um, traveling forty minutes. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, but then there was something else that came up and it bothers me so much that I wanted to pull that out out of the league. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, but we're too far in now. [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I can't feel it. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I know. [SPEAKER_06]: I know. [SPEAKER_06]: I know. [SPEAKER_06]: Do you need me to buy a raffle ticket? [SPEAKER_04]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: The crap will take it. [SPEAKER_04]: All right. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not a raffle to you. [SPEAKER_04]: Check my Facebook.com. [SPEAKER_04]: That might become late later. [SPEAKER_04]: No, do you know what it is? [SPEAKER_06]: What is it? [SPEAKER_04]: Josh, you know how I am with stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like a lot of stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, half a size of stuff he has has been hammered down. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to give him the baseball. [SPEAKER_04]: Up. [SPEAKER_04]: Someone gave him his mind. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: You gave him his baseball bag. [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of stuff came from you. [SPEAKER_06]: Travel ball means lots of uniforms. [SPEAKER_04]: Lots of uniforms, but here's the kicker. [SPEAKER_04]: Last year, they got, and I thought it was bit much. [SPEAKER_04]: They got three jerseys, two pants, three hats. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: This year, they probably get bags, too. [SPEAKER_04]: They got a baseball big last year. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_04]: Josh, they're doing it all again. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's what they did. [SPEAKER_04]: New home it. [SPEAKER_06]: That's what they did. [SPEAKER_04]: New hats. [SPEAKER_04]: New I said he has all the stuff from last year. [SPEAKER_04]: It all still fits. [SPEAKER_04]: Can we just use it? [SPEAKER_04]: No, everyone's getting new new new design new colors new all stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: Yep, because there's probably a new kid or two, and they need them all to have the same stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: What am I going to do? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, then have them get the stuff that we all got last year. [SPEAKER_04]: What am I going to do with two baseball bags with two helmets with two? [SPEAKER_04]: And this is not even the costing. [SPEAKER_04]: It's the waste, right? [SPEAKER_04]: I agree. [SPEAKER_06]: I agree with you. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a waste. [SPEAKER_04]: It's so silly. [SPEAKER_04]: And I let everyone know how silly this is. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a money-making opportunity because they're not selling them to you at cost. [SPEAKER_06]: Someone's making money. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's, I mean, it's all the factory. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's all this is a whole organization. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: So I was really annoyed. [SPEAKER_06]: Have you made the purchase for clothing for yourself? [SPEAKER_04]: No, that's another thing. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm the only parent that doesn't have gear. [SPEAKER_06]: I think parents can go overboard with the gear. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And again, they sell it all at their little factory thing. [SPEAKER_04]: And the fact is, so I love the coaches, the facilities nice. [SPEAKER_04]: They get their own like indoor facilities and back cages and then we can go and use them whenever we want. [SPEAKER_04]: Like all that stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: But I just the waste of the stuff that's not necessary. [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be hard for me to get past it. [SPEAKER_04]: Like I was like, this might be my last year, because I'm not buying a new baseball bag and new helmet every year. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even want it. [SPEAKER_04]: Even if it was free, I don't even want it, because he has it. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: The noise. [SPEAKER_04]: I have this idea of what's extreme in baseball. [SPEAKER_04]: And this is what I hate so much. [SPEAKER_04]: Is this kind of the keeping up with the Joneses, the keeping up with the Adam Joneses in baseball. [SPEAKER_04]: Even South of the other day came said, and he said, he wanted baseball batting gloves. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And I said, why? [SPEAKER_04]: You don't want any bag gloves. [SPEAKER_04]: He said, well, everyone else has them. [SPEAKER_04]: Did you show up? [SPEAKER_04]: Did you show up? [SPEAKER_06]: Did you show up all the Orioles that do not wear bag gloves? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I said, you know, who was it? [SPEAKER_04]: You used the penis hands? [SPEAKER_04]: I said, just peel on your hands before you, before they have bat. [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's a picture of thing. [SPEAKER_04]: No, there's a hitter of peat on his hands and then we're bag gloves. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe so. [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe it was for both. [SPEAKER_06]: I can understand him what bag gloves though. [SPEAKER_06]: Moises that, Louis. [SPEAKER_06]: Does the coach still have the hype fire bat, so you don't have to purchase a bat? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Where's their pressure for you to buy a real bat? [SPEAKER_04]: No, he gave, I mean, he lent the hype fire bat to Silas and his bag and he keeps with him all the time. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_06]: So it's basically a gift. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, whenever we leave the factory, we have to leave the bat, but as long as the factory, we have that, all that's proud of it. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Then then I would look at that as a wash of I have to buy all this stuff, but I don't have to buy a bat. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And all that stuff is going to be cheaper than that bat. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's, again, it's not about the cost. [SPEAKER_04]: It's about the whole. [SPEAKER_06]: I know. [SPEAKER_06]: It's about, it's just about it's waste. [SPEAKER_04]: It's just, I necessary. [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. [SPEAKER_04]: All right. [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to get off the out of my chest. [SPEAKER_04]: So this might be my last year for it. [SP

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